29.I called It First Hopefully I am wrong, any takers?

Dear Wanderingvets and Friends:

Do you ever have a thought and it is like OH DAMN!

I did tonight. It goes back to my post on the VA cutting its homeless vet numbers from 313,000 to 194,000 a total loss of 121,000 lost veterans.

Let me ask if this makes sense to you.? If congress orders the VA to clean up their homeless veterans mess by the year 2011, and you as the director of the VA have a shooting war in Iraq going on sending back veterans going into shelters what would you do?

Pull an Enron is what I guess he did, and started hiding bodies inside other accounting. In this case under accounting in other departments. My question now is how are they counting the bodies, and what categories are they being put in and under what agencies. If they are being recorded under HUD, is that a seperate report to congress, and not to the Veteran Affairs Committee? Its not a lie to congress technically, just tactically?

Any thoughts?


5 Responses to “29.I called It First Hopefully I am wrong, any takers?”

  1. 1 Lori
    October 5, 2007 at 3:47 pm


    If they enter treatment programs, are they still considered homeless? If they are being sheltered by the Salvation Army or some other charity group, are they still considered homeless?

    I think we need the VA’s definition of homeless!!

  2. 2 wanderingvet
    October 5, 2007 at 4:24 pm

    Yes they are still considered homeless under the Mckinley Act which is the all around definition of Homelessness. Funny though, at times the VA changes the definition depending what congressional committee and what report it is presenting with different batches of statistics.

  3. 3 wanderingvet
    October 6, 2007 at 1:37 pm

    See Updated Posts of Definition of Homelessness

  4. 4 wanderingvet
    October 6, 2007 at 1:38 pm

    The 192,000 I have found out to be a fictitous number totally.

  5. 5 tbearly
    December 14, 2007 at 5:50 am

    For the first section of my research paper I was required to define my “social problem” – in my case, ‘homelessness among U.S. veterans.’

    This is what I found:

    Title 38 of the United States Code – Veterans Benefits provides the following as its definition of “homeless veteran”:

    “In this chapter: (1) The term ‘‘homeless veteran’’ means a veteran who is homeless (as that term is defined in section 103(a) of the McKinney-Vento Homeless Assistance Act (42 U.S.C. 11302(a))). (United States Code Title 38 – Veterans Benefits, 2002.) This citation references the McKinney-Vento Homeless Assistance Act of 1986, a federal law that provides money to shelter programs for the homeless. It states:
    (a) In general
    For purposes of this chapter, the term “homeless” or “homeless individual” or homeless person” \1\ includes —
    (1) an individual who lacks a fixed, regular, and adequate nighttime residence; and

    (2) an individual who has a primary nighttime residence that is–
    (A) a supervised publicly or privately operated shelter designed to provide temporary living accommodations (including welfare hotels, congregate shelters, and transitional housing for the mentally ill);
    (B) an institution that provides a temporary residence for individuals intended to be institutionalized; or
    (C) a public or private place not designed for, or ordinarily used as, a regular sleeping accommodation for human beings.

    Ain’t that nice and tidy.


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